The positive value of $k$ for which the equations $x^2 + kx + 64 = 0$ and $x^2- 8x + k = 0$ will both have real roots is ________.
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The positive value of $k$ for which the equations $x^2 + kx + 64 = 0$ and $x^2- 8x + k = 0$ will both have real roots is ________.